@ D.S. I only said, "It will be interesting to see in 12-18 months which ones have been sacrificed for filthy lucre."
I wasn't making a specific prediction or prophesying. It'll still be interesting to see!
according to the uk charity commission, my old kingdom hall is hemorrhaging money and less is coming in.
long may it continue.. any ideas what a crappy, run down, shack of a kh spends £49,472.87 on in three years?
they were praying for a new hall for about 10 years until bethel basically stole it off them to build warwick.. .
@ D.S. I only said, "It will be interesting to see in 12-18 months which ones have been sacrificed for filthy lucre."
I wasn't making a specific prediction or prophesying. It'll still be interesting to see!
according to the uk charity commission, my old kingdom hall is hemorrhaging money and less is coming in.
long may it continue.. any ideas what a crappy, run down, shack of a kh spends £49,472.87 on in three years?
they were praying for a new hall for about 10 years until bethel basically stole it off them to build warwick.. .
The bottom line is that every congregation is financially "running on fumes", due to their having to send all monies in excess of 3-6 months running costs to the Branch - as a donation!
On the subject of donations - bearing in mind that I don't fully comprehend financial statements - it appears that the combined value of the IBSA and WTBTS in the U.K. (assets & cash) exceed £259m. (over $330m)
As such, J.W.'s in the U.K. should be asking their elders why donations are continually being requested to help fund the new Britain Branch at Chelmsford. It's anyone's guess how much it will actually cost, but considering the data, it doesn't take an Einstein to figure out that it will be a helluva lot less than £260m!
in newcastle town centre.
uk.. the chronicle live.
15 june 2017.. a council worker will stand trial after he was accused of being drunk at the wheel of his road sweeper in newcastle city centre.. john paul carruthers, who has since resigned from his post at newcastle city council, was allegedly over the legal drink-drive limit when he ploughed into a jehovah’s witness stand on northumberland street near to haymarket metro station.. prosecuting, james long told newcastle magistrates’ court: “the allegation is that he was driving a newcastle city council road sweeper when he collided first with a jehovah’s witness stand next to haymarket metro station.
Was the driver of the road-sweeper "spirit" inspired?
i've seen very few carts in western australia.
the only one i have seen is near the front entrance of the perth royal hospital and on the several occasions that i have seen it, they are there all day, at least during the week.
i've stopped and had long conversations twice now and both times when i have approached them they've told me to take whatever publications interest me and then we've started talking.this last visit i brought up the royal commission.
Well handled Listener. J.W.'s need to be encouraged to seriously consider what they are told by the org - and not just swallow it and regurgitate it for others.
If ever any J.W. repeats the org's mantra - "that they are told to call the Branch for instructions," I will simply ask them;
"If a non-J.W. raped your child or wife, if your house caught fire, or if you suffered a heart-attack, would your instincts tell you to 'phone Bethel for advice? Any decent human being knows exactly who they would contact immediately in such situations!"
hello people,.
i was born in but long time faded.
i think i hold current jws to a higher standard than they now maintain.. here's the thing; my father is very old, in his nineties and been a jdub for over 60 years and even made it to elder till he got too old.on a recent visit my siblings and dad were saying how wonderful that veterans affairs were.
J.W.'s in Russia are accepting awards from the man who has just vilified and banned their religion!
How insane is that?????????????
The Warwick H.Q. of J.W.'s sanctioned and encouraged the parents to accept the award - I'd bet my house on it! There's no way the Russian elders or the Branch would have cleared this - they'd have passed such a precarious decision up the pyramid to the "glorious ones" in N.Y. state.
They in turn saw it as an excellent propaganda opportunity - and used it as such!
hello everyone, it's been a while since i've posted anything on here so i thought i might give an update.
next month i turn 18 and my mom is constantly berating me about getting baptized, so much so that my siblings have even told her to stop.
ive just been flat out telling her no which i know is irritating her.
If you don't want to move out, just bite your tongue - with all of your family.
You shouldn't have a problem with your parents wanting to shun you, as long as you don't raise any apostate/atheist flags. Just act like their loving son who's simply "weakened & fallen away."
If you don't rock the boat, you can carry on sailing with your parents and siblings. I wish you well.
according to the self-proclaimed "faithful and discreet slave" of jehovah's witnesses, all sorts of evil things are going to be allowed to occur during christ's 1000 year reign!
it-2 p. 789 resurrection - "they are judged, not on what they did before hearing his voice, but on what they do after hearing it.
re chap.
Waton - :)
The alleged new scrolls is the only dogma which my closest friends in the org (former elder & wife) ever seriously questioned out of everything I discussed with them! They were dismayed to see that the scrolls were not opened during the millennium as the G.B. claims - but they still refuse to doubt the "golden calf's" divine appointment. Sigh.
according to the self-proclaimed "faithful and discreet slave" of jehovah's witnesses, all sorts of evil things are going to be allowed to occur during christ's 1000 year reign!
it-2 p. 789 resurrection - "they are judged, not on what they did before hearing his voice, but on what they do after hearing it.
re chap.
I take your point DrearyWeather, but there is a huge difference between "turning some persons away from serving Jehovah" and "the practicing of vile things."
The latter scenario does not present a credible picture of the paradise which is preached by J.W.'s - a depiction which the vast majority of J.W.'s have not yet absorbed.
according to the self-proclaimed "faithful and discreet slave" of jehovah's witnesses, all sorts of evil things are going to be allowed to occur during christ's 1000 year reign!
it-2 p. 789 resurrection - "they are judged, not on what they did before hearing his voice, but on what they do after hearing it.
re chap.
According to the self-proclaimed "faithful and discreet slave" of Jehovah's Witnesses, all sorts of evil things are going to be allowed to occur during Christ's 1000 year reign!
it-2 p. 789 Resurrection - "They are judged, not on what they did before hearing his voice, but on what they do after hearing it.
re chap. 41 p. 300 par. 16 - "Here "life" and "judgment" contrast with each other, showing that those resurrected ones who "practiced vile things" after being instructed in the inspired Scriptures and scrolls are judged to be unworthy of life.
rs p. 338 par. 1 Resurrection - "Both those who formerly did good things and those who formerly practiced bad things will be "judged individually according to their deeds." What deeds? Jesus was pointing ahead to the resurrection; then, in the remainder of verse 29, he was expressing the outcome after they had been uplifted to human perfection and been put on judgment."
bh p. 214 par. 3 - "No, the judgment will not focus on what people did before they died. How do we know that? The Bible says: "The one who has died has been acquitted from his sin." (Romans 6:7) ...........Thus, individuals will be judged on the basis of what they do during Judgment Day."
uw chap. 9 p. 76 par. 12 Power of the Resurrection Hope - They will be "judged individually according to their deeds" performed after their resurrection.
w82 4/1 p. 25 par. 18 The Kingdom and the Resurrection Hope - Both "those who did good things" and "those who practiced vile things" will be among "those dead" who will be "judged individually according to their deeds" performed after their resurrection.
w78 9/1 p. 22 par. 9 A Resurrection of Life and One of Judgment - the resurrected ones......will either turn to the course of doing good things or turn to the practicing of vile things.
So much for the org's promised "paradise conditions" and the Bible saying that Jesus Christ will be a "Prince of Peace" ruling with an iron rod! (Isaiah 9:6; Revelation 2:27; 12:5)
hey uk folks, what's going with this story?
was it an unbelieving mate that attacked and elder or something?.
The BBC is covering it now.